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Today’s Daf Yomi Question:
Why is a stream within mechitzos considered a Karmelis – why is this different than the din of ‘Lashon Yam’ within a Chatzer (12a) which is not considered Karmelis?
According to Rabbeinu Tam on that Daf, it is in fact a Karmelis. Otherwise, the leftovers of the fence was enough to be a Mechitza, which is what we require here.